Which begs the question why? Putin might be doing maskirovka. The British Army for starters needs a serious shake up and recapitalisation. Food, the are a exporter of food. Surface vessels Anti ship missiles are effectively back up. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. This was at the request of the Australian Government. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. 'Should Russia invade, we will provide additional defensive equipment to Ukrainians.'. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. To what end? Similarly, the economic sanctions threatened by the US and the UK apply regardless of the scale of such action. By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. They now believe they have achieved their goal and no longer have to bowRead more , Err no. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. 210 comments about a decades old routine RN escort operation. Add in SPEAR EW, which will be an air launched jammer, creating false targets, and the bad guys are going to have a veryRead more . Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. The German government even went so far as to brief journalists on Tuesday that cutting Russia off from international banking systems - the so-called 'nuclear option' of sanctions - was off the table, prompting angry denials from Washington. It is certainly andy reeves again! Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". NOT, should have out an archer. Will Stewart Resources, they have plenty of their own. Morning Sean. British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. I doubt it. ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. The RF receiver can help to lock onto a RF signal that matches something a target ship would emit. Meanwhile, in a show of support for former Soviet republics, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace yesterday visited Latvia. A senior State Department official said: 'This is neither an exercise nor normal troop movement. Its the bowl of gruel and the slice of old bread that really makes it all worthwhile. In a hastily arranged trip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to arrive in Kiev last night to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The official warned the Kremlin: 'Our message, and that of our allies and partners, is that Russia has two choices: diplomacy and de-escalation, or escalation and massive consequences. It had been thought Mr Putin would choose the 'simple option' of sending troops into the Donbass region in south-eastern Ukraine and then negotiate for it to become an independent state, providing a buffer between pro-western Ukraine andRussia. "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. Regime change? And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. Its a land grab and a hard lesson to NATO not to expand further east and Im afraid Ukraine who have been pro west since independence will pay the price. 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Ringfence it. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. His advanced years are often publicly evident in his performance. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. Western countries deem the Crimea to be part of Ukraine and reject Russia's claim to the seas around it. Thats one of the reasons the JSM in particular is getting the BAe RF receiver. Just do what I do and refer to wikipedia according to which the class was commissioned between 1975 and 1991. 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The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. More info. Which could be read either way. Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. I think ill have a drink now. Is funny that in America when Trump was President the media said he had made a secret deal with Putin but now that Biden is President and has verbally given Putin the OK to invade Ukraine the US media says nothing but how great Biden is. At the same time, it has stepped up social media campaigns portraying Ukraine as aggressors. This was of course totally unrelated to his dad, then VP, having a say on loan money going into Ukraine. HMS Lancaster joined Severn tracking Steregushchiy-class corvette Boikiy in the Channel and using its Wildcat helicopter to gather intelligence. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. Just to keep us on our toes. 'I strongly, strongly hope that we can keep this on a diplomatic and peaceful path, but ultimately, that's going to be President Putin's decision.'. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. In a sense he might as well go for as much of Ukraine as he can get hold of because the penalties are just the same. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. If they cant see it the RU navy will likely assess its not there. Without ASuW the RN is badly exposed, and its criminal negligence sending sailors into a warzone without ability to take offensive action. True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. An interesting breakdown of Americas national debt. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. If allowed to go unchecked, this will only serve to embolden both Putin and Xi, so interesting times ahead for all of us. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. The US defence budget is $777bn more than the rest of the world combined. And the capitol protests are nothing to do with this. Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. It comes after UK dfence chiefs said yesterday they fear Putin will opt for the 'nightmare scenario' of a full invasion of Ukraine as tensions rise towards tipping point. There are only 4 sets available for the Type 45s taken off the Type 22 Batch 3s. Yep, you may well sleep well when not being reminded of the things you could actually be doing to help the world, Ive partaken in wars over Oil and I dont even drive, Driving fossil fueled powered cars is not the only thing causing climate change and that we need to change. "The crew conducted an exercise to repel the means of an air attack of a simulated enemy in the Norwegian Sea.". Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. The only ones being childish are the politicians, the oil industry and those that choose to ignore reality. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? The stark warning comes after two rounds of last ditch talks between the West and Russia failed to de-escalate the conflict which has threatened to bubble over since late last year. Thu Feb 3 2022 - 19:50. Im all for countries determining their own choices, but I can see Putins concerns. Russia summoned the British ambassador in Moscow for a formal diplomatic scolding after the warship breached what the Kremlin says are its territorial waters but which Britain and most of the world say belong to Ukraine. He has set out his demands publicly (Ukraine never to join NATO, EFP troops to withdraw from Poland and the Baltics as a minimum) and he will then withdraw his troops we in the west will not agree to any of that. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. Biden??? Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! Ukrainian Defense Ministry's latest intelligence assessment yesterday warned Russia had massed more than 127,000 troops along the border, together with a sea and air component that marked a 'full strength' force. It will take them at least a decade to begin to get off Putins apron strings. British warships escort Russian fleet through English Channel, Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCG. It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Not training troops. As for Corbyn and Johnson, I generally agree I just wish people could see its kind of theRead more , Hi Ron-no need to apologise, I enjoy your posts and know that things for all of us can get robust at times. Ammunition depots. UK could learn a few things by this process and not immediately scrap stuff. The result is a net drop in drivers. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. he said. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2018/02/chechen-military-police-return-syria-russia.html. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. We have Astute, which is the finest anti ship weapon in the world, along with NATO and allied nuclear boats, its enough toRead more . The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. As to Corbin(Corbyn) and American born Johnson, well in my opinion Corbyn is poison and Johnson is a clown beyond redemption Regards Geoff(who is btw an ardent Americophile), Douglass post about this being Bidens fault instead of Putin and his yes men is just not true and I dont think its the time to encourage them. Criminal in the present circumstances which has been predictable for years that no effort to do so has been made. Except, Trump isnt the President, its the weak Biden who sits in the oval office and has for a wee while now. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. See reply above. NSM in clear sea lanes, is perfectly suited to keeping enemy at arms length. NSM like Harpoon has a range that means it flies way over the horizon. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . This idiot wants Biden to start the war. I would say that is far more annoying than Greta who actually tries her best to practice what she preaches. Normally theres maybe half a dozen ships of the coast of California waiting to be unloaded, last I heard it was over 70. No unvaccinated driver may cross the border and there are 10,000s of them. Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. Their speed, range, persistence on station, sensors stealth and firepower make them the modern day battleships, only vastly more effective. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. A 4 ship of F35s could put 36 missiles into the target area from over 100km away with the advantage of stealth. Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. Reuters provides business, financial, national and international news to professionals via desktop terminals, the world's media organizations, industry events and directly to consumers. I can see why you next comment was For starters. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. why? Im afraid its too early to plot the demise of the tank.. By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? 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It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. Id still bet the Poles will be doing a lot of footwork on how to help the Ukrainians. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. Sorted. Exercise still underway, they go to the Med when its finished. ", DON'T MISS:Vladimir Putin braced for Kremlin 'ultra-nationalists' mutiny[REPORT] West puzzled after Putin evacuates warships and submarines from region [REPORT] UK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontline[REPORT]. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. That's why he wants to overthrow the government of Volodymyr Zelenskyj in Kyiv. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. Putin is getting old and hybrid warfare is fruitful but getting boring. I suspect if we dont show strength and unity now the fighting will inevitably come to us. But you have to appreciate they are not the be all and end all. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. I somehow doubt it. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. Thanks to covid and the forthcoming energy crisis the cupboard is bare. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. Unfortunately we are in a poor starting position militarily, as is most of NATO if things escalate. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. Stand by to be surprised. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. Russia has repeatedly denied that it is planning an invasion and instead demanded that NATO bar Ukraine from membership. I wonder if we could see a real boost in our defence budget? LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the coast of Russia-annexed Crimea. @RoyalNavy ships @hms_tyne and @HMSDragon have escorted three Russian warships through the North Sea and English Channel as part of a unified response with allies. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. Blocking the straits is a far cry than just a few drone attacks. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. 'The operatives are trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces. HMS Dragon, though reportedly armed with Harpoon, is being put in harms way without a modern AShM. Giving his annual speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the Defence chief said: They are flexing their muscles in our own back yard with an ostentation they have not displayed since the Cold War. Launch control was always in Moscow. That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. 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