JavaScript is disabled. You may have a great load that is pushing max and loading from an 8lb keg, and a few years later you buy another keg. Powders include Winchester, Hodgdon, IMR As such, a subsonic 300 Blackout load makes an ideal accompaniment to a suppressor, suiting it well for (A) tactical situations where ear protection would be impractical, and (B) hunting hogs without scattering the whole pack after the first shot. 296 speaks for itself. More about this powder: Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. This is the only powder I have used in my 44 Magnum ever since. In 2012, Hodgdon introduced the Copper Fouling Elimination reloading powder line, with the CFE 223. The best 5 shot group was .334 MOA while the worst was 3.787 MOA! The low case capacity requires the use of powders with a fast burn rate like H110 and IMR 4227. As with IMR 4227, Hodgdon obtained the following load data using a 16 barrel with a 1:8 twist rate, Hornady cases trimmed to 1.363, and Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum primers. It is also widely considered to be the powder of choice for .410 bore shotgun shells. Prior to building a custom bolt action rifle in 300 BLK I did a lot of homework on loads and load development. They instead heavily based their new cartridge on SSK Industries 300 Whisper. A supersonic 300 Blackout round with a 110 grain bullet has a muzzle velocity approximately 1,000 fps slower than that of a 223 Rem, giving it a significantly faster bullet drop. Tuning any lower can result in inconsistent burn- aka squib loads- aka projectile in the barrel just waiting to become a KB. and 8 lb. I went back and read my notes. Case capacity is critical with .300 Blackout. Click "Get Data" to view results. 0. In a life and death situation-who cares about the noise? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. x}% 9 V/@]Jz$Y-l7 m1#`2A2*tTfn2+O~W|S/_^Se=~oL/Ooh}k4m{zc{>{!w-77cz-Nnxo#j~_~t{pt/c|~z'Gc;2`gk)i,0 1cOh||z>3z L`];H\Gwyb^z-_.oWlw}E> 1 0 obj * All prices incl. 220 sierras were stable to 150 meters with 1:7 twist. = Subsonic Maximum load: 11.0 grains (ca 1100 Fps) = Subsonic Don W. CSR 406-234-0422 www.westernpowders.com Excellent for loading high velocity rounds in big bore revolvers such as .44 magnum, .460 magnum and .500 magnum. Example 220gr subsonic data there for h4198 and reloader 7 two thingsfirst not in anyway subsonicthey are high velocity. 220 g round nose / 9.9 g H110 cycles 8.5 and 16 barrels no issues. Get free updates when we add new tips, articles and more! If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Yes, I am a Baptist, and yes I carry a gun. The twist rate needed to accommodate the heavy subsonic bullets makes finding accurate super sonic loads difficult. You MUST have a pistol length gas system. In contrast, subsonic .300 Blackout is ballistically very close to the Russian 9x39mm, the 2 often being compared to the point that bullet drop data and points of impact are virtually identical from 0 to 200 meters. Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. All content Copyright 1998-2018 Rifleshooter.com, FTC disclosure: some links on this site are monetized, Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP Air Rifle Review- Initial Impressions, Project Guns- Gunsmithing articles and posts, check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012, 125, 135, 175 and 220 grain Sierra MatchKings, AICS style 223 magazine from Accurate Mag, Modular Driven Technologies (MDT) HS3 Chassis Review: Initial Thoughts, 308 Winchester Load Development: 175-grain Sierra Matchking and Varget, Building a Custom Remington 700 .308 Tactical Rifle, Smith and Wesson K-Frame revolver barrel removal and installation, 308 Winchester load development: Sierra .308 195 gr. It is the factory powder for Winchester 357, 41 and 44 magnums. Communism only made one thing that works, and capitalism can make it even better. What could be the problem with the load in the 16.5 ? A few manufacturers offer bolt action rifles chambered in the 300 BLK. Rainier Ballistics has introduced plated 180-grain bullets for subsonic use only. Digital calipers are typically cheaper than equivalent-quality dial calipers. Although they are more recently developed cartridges, lots of people love lil' gun in 460 Magnum and in the rifle cartridges 300 Blackout and 450 Bushmaster. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. Does Lee offer a Powder Thru Expanding Die for the 300 AAC Blackout. Punching it into quickload shows a 64% case fill, and pressures estimated in the 22K range. Winchester 296 Ball Powder. Powders that cover most 300 BLK projectiles. Winchester - Legendary Powders RELOADING DATA CENTER ALL THE LOAD DATA YOU'LL EVER NEED ALL IN ONE PLACE! They are a lot more economical for plinking than spending the money on the Sierras. You all show older data in the 300 using lil gun for a load workup option. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. Hodgdon H110 is identical to Winchester 296; it is simply sold under a different label. There's a good reason this companies spend so much time making reloading manuals. Firearm: 8.5 CMMG Barrel, H3 heavy buffer, superlative arms adjustable gas block, 30 Cal Kinetic Suppressor. (296 and H110 are verified the exact same powder, just marketed under two different brand names.) Other companies, such as Hornady, also have a variety of projectiles available ranging from light to heavy weight for the caliber. I plan to build a bolt action with a 16.5 barrel and will use projectiles between 180 220 gr., so not sure if I should go with the 1-8 or get a 1-7 barrel blank made. It is also suitable for .221 Fireball, 6.8mm SPC, and 7.62x39mm if you happen to reload for these cartridges as well. Depending on the weight and length of the bullet selected, the amount of space available inside the case may change dramatically. They first looked to the 7.6239 for inspiration. A better solution to this problem is to use the .300 Blackout-specific magazines made by D&H Tactical and Magpul.A couplenice-to-have items that are not necessarily required for reloading .300 blackout are a brass tumbler and brass separator. My Start load was 16.5 grains and showed no pressure. The latter has nearly twice the propellant, and is therefore better able to fell very distant game. I worked up a load and settled at 9.8gr of 296 which turns out to be an exact load listed by Winchester on their load data website. It was originally created for Winchester .410 shotgun factory ammo, but found use in 30 Carbine and magnum pistol loads. : 1.831" Powder: 10.3 gr 13.0 gr Vel. I check every single one for the sake of making sure there wont be any problems during my shooting sessions. Whether you are reloading to save money or to create the perfect load for hunting, self-defense, or suppressed use, there is load data and a suitable propellant for you. Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. Vortex to take over customer service and support for the app. Restrictions placed on us by the powder manufacturers do not allow us to email any load data. The chief difficulty in accurately firing 300 Blackout comes from learning to accommodate its pronounced bullet drop. We are engineers, reloading enthusiasts and operate one of the most powerful ballistics calculators. Of course, you need a reloading press. select rifle cartridge and then 300 AAC Blackout Lists loads using: IMR 4227 (subs and supers) W296 (subs and supers, however may not function some carbine systems with subs. : Vihtavuori 100 gr HPCE / OTCE When it comes to recoil energy, assuming you're using an 8 pound rifle, the Blackout hits you less with 4.3 foot-pounds compared to the AK's 6.34 foot-pounds. Born in Boston in 1810, Winchesters initial foray into business was as a maker of mens shirts. % Optimal performance with supersonic loads is generally achieved with 100- to 130-grain projectiles, while good subsonic loads are achievable with 190- to 240-grain bullets. Accuracy was less than an inch with three shots. Whereas the fixed distance competition shooter may be fine with higher magnification and precise .125 MOA adjustments, the military/law enforcement/tactical shooter is []. endobj The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense Relative Brun Rate: However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot .30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel change. He is a greedy old has been who would have let this cartridge perish. BTW, small standard rifle primers are nearly identical to small magnum pistol primers .. about the same mix and cup thickness. In ill health for some time, Oliver F. Winchester died December 11, 1880 at age 70 in New Haven, Connecticut. Powders that have been tested and tried by others. For lightweight supersonic loads IMR 4227, Hodgdon CFE Black, Hodgdon H110, Winchester 296 and Alliant 2400 are good options. Ramshot Enforcer is a high-performance, double-base spherical propellant intended for high-power handgun revolver cartridges, such as .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, or .500 Magnum. Remember sib sonic loads are only a 100 yd load. endobj Pistol SET YOUR SIGHTS ON PISTOL RELOADING DATA Find what you need in four easy steps. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. To save a bunch of questions, you may want to add W296 next to H110, with a note that they are the same powder. Offcource in case of subsonic 300 BLK, forgot to mention, sorry. However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. Caution is warranted here. by lupy123 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:06 pm, Post and 5.56 NATO loads. On the up side, firing the 300 BLK from a precision rifle is a pleasure. I'm loading .300 Blackout with 230gr bullets. AR-platform rifles optimized to run subsonic 300 Blackout tend to fire supersonic ammo poorly. Factory reloading info from Hodgdon's website as of Spring 2015. Keep in mind that the benchrest crowd, the hot-rodders of this sport, feel the best accuracy is on the edge of stabilization. The 300 AAC Blackout Loading Data wasn't listed in the 2016 version because we hadn't received load data for that caliber at the time of the printing. Get the invoqe newsletter for similar stories delivered straight to your inbox. Winchester 231 is way too fast to be used for the 300 BO. : 2,293 2,458 Press. If you are using heavily soiled range-pickup brass, youll need the more aggressive walnut-hull media.All in all, youll have some upfront costs but if you shoot a lot of .300 Blackout, youll find the break even point in short order. The photo below shows my exact load data I use now with . June 1, 2016 Win 296 and H110 are the same, 4227 is not. An Instruction/Load data Sheet for the 300 Blackout die set can be purchased through the link below. A forum community dedicated to anglers in the Texas area. I have some other common pistol powders like lil gun, bullseye, and titegroup but would like to hear what you guys use for the 147 pills. A .300 Blackout rifle loaded with subsonic ammunition and fitted with a suppressor is truly silenced; the firearms loudest element is the bolt going home with every shot. Not only does this allow for compatibility with existing magazines and bolts, but it allows reloaders to form their own brass from cut-down 5.56mm or .223 cases ensuring brass supply even in the event of a shortage of factory brass. Winchester 296 is also recommended for 410-bore AA loads. 300 Blackout Reloading Data An Infamous round created by the Advanced Armament Corp in partnership with Remington in order to allow a .30 caliber to be used with an M4 with nothing more than a barrel exchange. In today's episode of "I Carry," we have a Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Metal pistol with a Holosun EPS Red2 red-dot sight carried in a KSG Armory Lexington IWB holster. The Rainier Ballistics bullets come in a wedge or a hollowpoint offering. 1/8 twist. A carbine length gas system (one comment mentioned 16.5 inch gun would not cycle the action) will not work with subsonic loads in 300 blackout. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. If you need greater amounts of ammo, you may want to look at a turret or progressive press. I have complete faith in my Lord. If you folks want really figures use quick loadthis data and noslers data is bogus. Dillons dies for their machines can be pricey, but the company also generally uses a carbide sizing die. Free shipping for all bulk orders. If you are planning to reuse your brass, and you should, you will probably want to clean it. On some guns, the short case can simply snap out from under the extractor if using a constant tension spring type ejector. One of the benchrest guys I know asked how I liked my 300 BLK rifle. My Hornady 10th edition manual doesn't include it either. 01-26-2013, 07:53 AM #9 bmiller Boolit Buddy Nosler specifies a Winchester standard rifle primer. In my 16.5, X95 Sierra 220 grain RN with 11.2 grains of H110 WILL NOT cycle. It is a versatile chambering, capable of accepting a wide range of .30-caliber projectiles. If you see something not right let me know, by also giving supporting reasoning. I have used this program for years and tke it with a very large grain of salt! There are a handful of solid reloading manuals out there from Speer, Hornady, Sierra, and Barnes, to name a few. 300 Blackout is taking the shooting world by storm, and for good reason. It is extremely easy to convert an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout ammunition, and the rounds ballistic performance is different enough to justify purchasing the barrel necessary to do so. It doesnt have to be fast or super accurate, just looking for a cheap plinking round, Lil gun will work for you. If youre only feeding a bolt-action rifle or only slow-firing an AR-15, then a single-stage press, such an RCBS Rock Chucker, will work. or 5.56 NATO chamber. Never seen that with 1:7 rifling twist. Just sayn, I switched to LilGun for 220RN sub groups we t down to under 1 MOA cycles 26 bbl great. endobj Powder meters great in my Dillon 550, I am 67 years old been using this forever in all my magnum hand guns and desert eagles meter fine in powder measures, Great powder . Thanks, The data is all wrong anyway. A subsonic 300 Blackout round produces comparatively little muzzle flash in addition to a softer report, making it a fine choice for hunting in nighttime and twilight conditions. I explained to him he wouldnt really have a 300 BLK anymore. Subsonic 300 Blackout. of H-110 as a supersonic loading. The 300 Blackout would never see mainstream military use, although it became popular in the civilian shooter market. A crowd favorite for pig hunting, deer hunting and general subsonic fun with silencers, it remains a strong choice for many shooters. The target was a 2 orange dot printed on paper. LBT heat treated solids and max charges of 296 are a super penetrator for large dangerous game! The case gauge is to be used to check every loaded piece of ammunition. Feeds well in my Hornady progressive press. I haven't had much luck with Trail Boss in the Blackout for what it's worth. 152. If you want cheap, youre looking at having to buy remanufactured ammunition, which can sometimes be of questionable quality. Old Craftsman 6-inch dial calipers passed on the author by his machinist father alongside a Wilson .300 Blackout case gauge. Beside h110 or 296, anyone have another powder they use for 147 supersonic loads? East Central. The case manufacturer, Nosler or Jagemann (JAG), is listed on the table below. You might think I carry a gun because I don't trust God. Carbine length gas tube. works like a charm. 1 MOA. You'll either spend less or shoot more. It tends to be the most accurate powder in those two rifles cartridges. Intended primarily for high case capacity, high-power cartridges such as .454 Casull, .475 Linebaugh, and .500 S&W Magnum, it has also been used successfully for decades in certain rifle calibers, such as 7.62x39mm and .300 Blackout. With the opening of the American West to settlement and the ongoing military conflicts in Europe and the Near East, the demand for Winchester firearms and ammunition remained strong. While subsonic loads are technically possible with W296, you should avoid them because it is too easy to reach dangerous overpressure levels with this powder. 4 0 obj Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. A view into a Dillon Precision XL650 progressive reloading press midway through loading some .300 Blackout with 180-grain Rainier Ballistics FP bullets.The .300 Blackout has had a few years to grow now. For the next 14 years Winchester aggressively sought new markets, created new products and explored new opportunities for his lever-action rifles. Any thoughts? Hogdon H110 isn't bad according to Foghorn (who graciously loaned . H 4831, 220 gr RN Fed 205 heavy factory crimp, 1050 fps cycles my 16 M4. A balance-beam scale used for measuring powder charges. Onm4>#wgfYcX+x;^!%w Gpho?w3x[:gb@UC8|tKn). I generally use a balance-beam version, as its less expensive, but if youre inclined to spend more money, you can opt for a digital. The part is free, you are just responsible for any applicable taxes and Shipping/Handling. The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing, The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. So Remington will be budget-priced UMC-brand 300 BLK ammo through at just $12.99 per box that's less than most other rifle cartridges than are more powerful than the .223. Winchester 296 Recipe Source: ALL Alliant Powder Hodgdon Shooters World VihtaVuori Starting Max Source 85 gr RN (Sierra) 0.308" Powder: H110 (Hodgdon) Primer: CCI 400 Case: WIN Trim Length: 1.285" C.O.L. Certifiable has done some pretty good work on Subsonic powders for both carbine and pistol gas systems. To reload your own .300 Blackout, there are some must-have tools needed to make high-quality handloads.Before you embark on this, assuming you havent already, you should probably find a reloading manual and get familiar with the process of reloading your own ammunition as well as finding the load data youre going to need. Your email address will not be published. When a certain caliber can range from pushing bullets around 150 grains down range around 2500 feet per second to throwing 245-grain bullets at 950 feet per second, it obviously . This is particularly helpful when loading subsonic ammunition as you can make sure your bullet speeds are still below supersonic velocities but as close as to those velocities as you can get. AA1680 or similar in burn rate should work well. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. You have a number of options. Although they share .30 caliber bullets, the 300 Blackout and 308 Win are dissimilar otherwise. Id urge you to do the same. Ive seen somewhat large quantities of ammo loaded on a single stage, but it is time-consuming and sometimes involves bribing children to do things like checking it all in a case gauge (be sure to check your states child labor laws). The loads shown below are only considered safe in the test gun! Ive seen published load data with N120 as well. 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As Im sure you noticed, some powders handle a fairly wide variety of bullet weights. There are offerings from Sierra with one of the notables being their 220-grain MatchKing. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. containers. Eventually, they got their own 300 Blackout cartridge SAAMI approved in 2011. IMR propellants have long been used to manufacture US military service ammunition, such as .30-06 M2 Ball (IMR 4895) or 7.62mm NATO M61 AP (IMR 4475). Always start [] 243 Outdoors. Has N120 been discontinued? (r.). This website uses cookies to ensure the best experience possible. IMR 4227, W-296, H-110, or Lil'Gun instead of rifle powders like I expected. I have seen a few complaints from people with barrels under 10, but better stability was found when switching to a 1-7 twist rate. All CFE powders are double-base, spherical propellants designed to perform 2 tasks: For example, CFE-223 is optimized for .223 Remington, CFE Pistol is best suited for commonly-used pistol cartridges (9x19mm, .45 ACP) CFE-BLK is designed for .300 Blackout. Winchester 296 . These dimensions make caliber conversions of firearms from 5.56/.223 to .300 Blackout relatively easy, only needing a barrel replacement. Also note when examining published materials you will find a wide range of loads that are deemed safe. I plan on doing more work with it and reporting back in the future. For reloading information:WARNING: The loads shown are for informational purposes only. They are constantly asking about powders. Note: H110 loads should never be reduced by more than 3%. 300 BLK, Cartridge Selection, Reloading However, that can be problematic, as the shorter length can also make it easy for a loaded .300 Blackout cartridge to be chambered in a .223 Rem. I have loaded some 150 grain Power Points with I 4227. Johnny's Reloading BenchAn idiot and his reloading press My affiliate links and donation . I found some commercial manufactures (mostly off the record) either discontinued bolt guns in 300 BLK, pulled them from the market after the product was announced, or declined to introduce them due to accuracy and feeding concerns. As mentioned, it should NOT be reduced. In my Palmetto State Armory 7.5 upper the load functions perfectly ! Besides the cost-saving advantages, handloading is also a way to tune your ammunition to your .300 Blackout rifles so that it performs with the best accuracy and reliability possible. A few manufacturers offer bolt action rifles chambered in the 300 BLK. Start load: 9.9 grains (ca 975 Fps). A subsonic load requires a powder that will launch your bullet at a muzzle velocity under the speed of sound (1,125 ft/s) with sufficient downrange accuracy. The 300 Blackouts .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem rounds. Cycles better than anything. Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. Running a rifle like this suppressed would be a hoot. This one seems to reign as a favorite, but it isnt cheap. Joined Feb 16, 2018 Messages 439. AAC 7.62 Suppressor , Crimp is most important as heavy bullets want to move on recoil in the mag and will cause vertical stringing. Plenty of nice loads available for many components. I use it for my 220gr subsonic 300 blk loads. Also slight keyholing and groups growing up. Hogdon H110 works well for 110-220gr projectiles. I may add notes to the original Post to each powder, with the understanding that sometimes what works for one gun combo may not work for another gun combo. IMR 4227 is suitable for supersonic and subsonic loads. If you wish to run the 235gr Lee supersonic it will be fine but subsonic you should choose a different powder. Smart and safe loader will back off the load and work it back up simply due to powder age and lot variation. Nosler BT 19 grs. I use a Dillon Precision XL650 and Ive been happy with it.Once you have your press, youre going to need appropriate dies. I have a 16 bbl. This cartridge accepts 0.308 bullets, making it a true .30-caliber cartridge for which a wide selection of projectiles ranging from 80 to 250 grains is available. 296 has kept .410 in the hands of American youth- teaching them to shoot for generations. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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